Ok, I guess I really didn't make it very clear in my post since you both seemed confused on what I meant. XD But in my defense I did write it up late at night after several intense hours of sewing.
But yes, Takarazuka is a all-female theater group in Japan. They play both the female and male parts and here I'm specifically referring to the actresses that play the male roles. And like I said, I refer to the characters as males too when they actually are males. But I meant when we're using the name of the actress and they call them a "he". I mean like I said, maybe its just makes more sense to them. But Zuka actresses don't really want to be thought of as male.
And yeah, I mean there's a whole documentary on Zuka and they put it pretty well in that. That the Japanese women who watch the shows are mostly there for the escape. They even have a little interview (granted this thing is about 10 years old now so it might not be accurate to today's crowds) with some women after a show who admit they don't tell their husbands that they sneak away in the middle of the day to watch these shows and that the otokoyaku really are their ideal image of a man. Its not that they are in love with the actresses persay but they are in love with the image they present. And that's also why Zuka fans are typically women (male fans are really rare, lol I've never encountered one in all my 8 years but I know they do exist XD) because the shows are in fact directed specifically at women and give them this fantasy world where the men are perfect. I just find it ironic that it takes a woman to play that role for it come off as that. XDXD But it really is the opposite of kabuki in that sense. Where the onnagata are said to be the "perfect woman". I did a whole big essay on this in college once and its pretty interesting stuff. And Zuka really fits the same mind frame, just the opposite gender.
But yeah, I'm just curious about it. 'Cause to me personally it strikes me as odd 'cause I've never had any other friends and fellow Zuka fans call them that unless its referring to the character in the show. Just wonder if its them having a hard time dealing with this idea of thought. 'Cause yeah, I totally agree with the blurred lines of sexuality. But I don't think they really would be able to understand that given their backgrounds. Still catches me off guard sometimes when I'm being all "man she's sexy" and one of them agrees with me and I'm like "wait, did you just agree?" lol just 'cause I mean with a lot of my other friends that wouldn't phase me at all. But its just because its them. XD But it does make me happy.
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Date: 2012-02-07 03:34 am (UTC)But yes, Takarazuka is a all-female theater group in Japan. They play both the female and male parts and here I'm specifically referring to the actresses that play the male roles. And like I said, I refer to the characters as males too when they actually are males. But I meant when we're using the name of the actress and they call them a "he". I mean like I said, maybe its just makes more sense to them. But Zuka actresses don't really want to be thought of as male.
And yeah, I mean there's a whole documentary on Zuka and they put it pretty well in that. That the Japanese women who watch the shows are mostly there for the escape. They even have a little interview (granted this thing is about 10 years old now so it might not be accurate to today's crowds) with some women after a show who admit they don't tell their husbands that they sneak away in the middle of the day to watch these shows and that the otokoyaku really are their ideal image of a man. Its not that they are in love with the actresses persay but they are in love with the image they present. And that's also why Zuka fans are typically women (male fans are really rare, lol I've never encountered one in all my 8 years but I know they do exist XD) because the shows are in fact directed specifically at women and give them this fantasy world where the men are perfect. I just find it ironic that it takes a woman to play that role for it come off as that. XDXD But it really is the opposite of kabuki in that sense. Where the onnagata are said to be the "perfect woman". I did a whole big essay on this in college once and its pretty interesting stuff. And Zuka really fits the same mind frame, just the opposite gender.
But yeah, I'm just curious about it. 'Cause to me personally it strikes me as odd 'cause I've never had any other friends and fellow Zuka fans call them that unless its referring to the character in the show. Just wonder if its them having a hard time dealing with this idea of thought. 'Cause yeah, I totally agree with the blurred lines of sexuality. But I don't think they really would be able to understand that given their backgrounds. Still catches me off guard sometimes when I'm being all "man she's sexy" and one of them agrees with me and I'm like "wait, did you just agree?" lol just 'cause I mean with a lot of my other friends that wouldn't phase me at all. But its just because its them. XD But it does make me happy.